Vicki Robin: Yeah, that’s a great question. Join over 100,000 others on the Mad Fientist email list and get a PDF packed with all the best advice I've received on the Financial Independence Podcast! When you go off your breath, come back and watch your breath. I know Your Money or Your Life is like the bible of the FI community. And so everybody jumps in to save the little kids who are struggling, they’d fish them out. I talk about those choices. And we kept counting up the audiences like, okay, we’re going to get to, we figured we’d gotten to 50% of the country. I thought, “Buddy, we tried that. I mean, I had repeated myself for the cause I can’t tell you how many times. And then, I heard a lecture where I realized—somebody, one of my old colleagues, talking about some vision for a sane economy. I mean, I was like a race horse that took the bit in the mouth, and didn’t care if it died before the finish line. Vicky Pattison, 32, took to Instagram to mark the UK's National Fitness Day with a candid post about how her attitude towards fitness and body image has changed throughout the years. Two observations: 1) it’s shocking how long shoulderpads and hairteasing persisted into the 90s, and 2) it’s inspiring to see how the seeds of minimalism, frugality and FI were planted in the 90s despite the deep-seated consumerist culture of the time. That piece, if I could just deliver that piece in all its glory, I trust that the rest of it works out. You know, just all the lists, all the major shows, all the everything. And then, I had this come to Jesus moment where I was at the meeting in the late ‘90s with these global leaders and realized, “This is way bigger than I knew.”. We were going to form common cause and find that leader. I raised money so that we could meet. This was the first book I read that put me on the FI path. That’s roughly about $476,000 in 2017 dollars. Vicki Robin has lectured widely and appeared on hundreds of radio and television shows, including "The Oprah Winfrey Show," "Good Morning America" and National Public Radio's "Weekend Edition" and "Morning Edition." And I especially had a failing. Mad Fientist: I can’t wait to talk to you more about this when we meet up in the UK in August. Bazaar! You will notice I’m wearing the same purple dress. And that’s distributed through Sounds True. There was another 10,000 tape courses that have sold. Well, I was just talking to a friend this morning about that one piece of advice thing because everybody asks it. I sort of went back down to the very spring of my life where my life was bubbling out to find out: “Who am I now?” I asked the question: “What else in my body wants to live that hasn’t had a chance to live in this body?”. And you know, now we can take a look at the corporate environment. Vicki Robin . A lot of years had gone by. What I noticed after years of people doing this program and communicating with me is that the core of the program really is steps #2, #3 and #4. The Awareness Center, Inc., also known as the international Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Abuse/Assault, was a nonprofit institution whose stated mission was to end sexual violence in the Jewish community. I’m healthy. And then, the first version of the book was published 1992, is that correct? And I used to say to audiences, I said like, “Look, this is nuts. And I call that “community is currency,” that relational field. But the United States wouldn’t have a hearing because this is not—as George Bush Sr. said, “The way Americans consume is not up for discussion. I had no idea what happened. I’m not dinking with the 9-step program, per se, but the emphasis is on a different [soul level]. This island is my go-bag. But I have never heard of her, or her work. Such a honest and caring person. How are you responding to Covid-19? It’s like a time activism. You’ve been living this life for decades. is a prolific social innovator, writer and speaker. People needed to talk to each other, not listen to us. -Oprah For more than twenty-five years, Your Money or Your Life has been considered the go-to book for taking back your life by changing your relationship with money. I believe I have been involved with everything that Vicky says in this podcast. Hopefully, it gets released soon. ), http://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/27/us/joe-dominguez-58-championed-a-simple-and-frugal-life-style.html, How Joe was able to retire at the age of 31 in 1969 with $70,000 in the bank, Why Vicki’s quest to change the world didn’t succeed (yet), How a stage-3 cancer diagnosis changed her plans, What’s going to be different in the new version of, What she believes are the most important steps in the, How the book’s investment advice has changed and what she is current investing in. The population has been so confused by, fundamentally, this huge experiment and propaganda, dirtying our minds with ideas that, rationally, don’t make any sense. I don’t know that we’re going to get everybody to do anything different.”, I was so disturbed that there wasn’t anything new in the horizon that could change that dominant story of money. How are you responding to Covid-19? Vicki Robin has lectured widely and appeared on hundreds of radio and television shows, including "The Oprah Winfrey Show," "Good Morning America" and National Public Radio's "Weekend Edition" and "Morning Edition." 2008 Blessing the Hands That Feed Us. Ideas, please, and thanks. I am a big fan of this book and the program however with the current economy and the low low low interest rates especially on bonds, which Joe advocates, how on earth do you make the program work without a LOT of cash saved and even then? They can be put in your grave with you like the ancients did with their gold? Reduce or eliminate those expenses to achieve financial independence even sooner. This was the first time I had ever heard her. So I’m juiced for the journey. That’s not financial independence. I just bought that thing. It’s the book that everyone references and things. And I’m actually analyzing my own spending again just because what makes you happy changes so much, and you just have to constantly be making sure that that spending is aligned with it. And that 5% goes out and influences the next 15%, and you have 20% of the population who believe the same thing, and that idea is going to spread. I just read it two months ago. These 70,000 people (or 65,000 people) who live on this island, this is it! But what I see now is that you all are naturally collaborative because the environment is naturally collaborative. And so all of the commissioners who traveled the world, all these people were there. An open letter to the FIRE community, Hello FIers . And yes, there are going to be people like you guys who figured it and you become FI and there’s a fascination with how to do it when you do it through a job or through investing. And within weeks of publication, our publicist got us on Oprah. Anyway, that’s Joe. Ultimately it is a skill to be able to consistently realize that the “things” in life are not what is important! Life on FIRE – what’s next for me, you and us. One of the founders of the financial independence movement, Vicki Robin, joined me for an episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! Vicki Robin: Well, you do have to start with Joe. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Hundreds of thousands of people have followed this nine-step program, learning to live more deliberately and meaningfully with Vicki Robin's guidance. People see it as a money management system, but it’s really a consciousness system. And that one was to publicize the film, Affluenza, which I’m not sure you know about. I don’t know if you’ve heard of “transition towns,” but it’s an approach to community organizing in light of the possibility of less fossil fuel energy in the fuel, and also the possibility that there would be greater joy, fun, connection, things that make life worth living if we take our eye off of the fossil fuel growth economy and put our eye on what is life here. Vicki has been a driving force in the FI community since the 1960s and has a wealth of knowledge and inspiring stories to share so hope you enjoy the interview! Bücher Alle anzeigen. And so, we went on that quest, and we found answers for ourselves. This book had such an impact on me, that I gave copies to friends and neighbors. So your abilities are part of your kit. And we’ll definitely touch on that. Vicki and Joe had been talking about financial independence way back in the ‘60s and had seminars in the ‘80s and wrote the book and published it in the ‘90s. And so, there’s an element to this of just biting the bullet and being political, taking stands, speaking truth to power, getting yourself meetings with the governors and the senators and the President, getting yourself meetings with people. Vicki Robin . Books See All. Let’s call the whole thing off? So basically, I’m a values-based investor. Mad Fientist: Yeah. And eventually, what we found was people didn’t want the spiritual teachings. I’m well-dressed. And I had enough money barely to survive for who knew how long. I was bored with it. Sad that he passed away at such an early age. Its intuitive, we all know it, Vicki articulates it. 29 May, 2020. She is coauthor with Joe Dominguez of the international best-seller, Your Money or Your Life: Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence(Viking Penguin, 1992, 1998, 2008, 2018). And I’m so glad that it’s on the next version of Your Money or Your Life. And out of that, I came to understand that even though it’s a semi-rural island, even though in the middle of the island, we have some of the best farmland actually, the deepest, deepest topsoil—best farmland in the United States—and we have our prairie, even though all of that, we import 95% of our food. I don’t know if it’s an either/or. You can buy that course through the Shift Network. And so I met Joe actually in—well, we were both traveling. In just a few short months, I’m there with you. They say that 75% of the American economy is consumption. Recent Posts. And I don’t have any space. FI, FIRE and Covid-19; are we better set for this virus? Your email address will not be published. Vicki Robin (born July 6, 1945) is an American writer and speaker. You lose all your social safety net. It was like, “I’m doing this.”. It was great. Can I grow food? What a great interview. And then, from that, I go to, “Okay, fine. Vicki Robin has lectured widely and appeared on hundreds of radio and television shows, including "The Oprah Winfrey Show," "Good Morning America" and National Public Radio's "Weekend Edition" and "Morning Edition." Mad Fientist: Oh, perfect! Can we be a force? I’m a values investor where I’m putting my money—basically, I’m getting 5% of my money free and clear—and a lot more because I built two little apartments on the ground floor of my house, and so I have rental income. I believe you met Joe in the late 1960s. And then, you go to having hot water. So, I developed that one in 2001. Mad Fientist: So, what systemic things do you think stopped it from expanding beyond that 20%? Over the course of many years, we gave away a million dollars and 800 small grants to organizations. Vicki Robin is a renowned innovator, ... -Oprah "The seminal guide to the new morality of personal money management." My experience is if I give people one thing they can do, then they’re off the hook, and they don’t do it… just the one thing. Vicki went on the road, eventually doing well over a thousand media interviews, including a reprise on Oprah. We would sit together, we would talk about each chapter, and then I would write it. We had people pooh-pooh us about our investment things because they were getting 40% on their money—of course, they lost it. Let’s go upstream however hard the path is and find out who’s doing that.”. There was an error submitting your subscription. These are the things you can do for yourself, so you take it out of the economy and have it in the do-it-yourself economy. Vicki Robin: No, actually. I presumed that people would say, “Oh, how are people responding to your book?” I say, “I’ll have a little recording in every book. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. She has also been featured in People Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, Woman's Day, Newsweek, Utne Magazine and the New York Times. 2018 Blessing the Hands That Feed Us. And a couple of years later, I got on to the relocalization movement. My mind was always working like, “Oh, my God! So, I didn’t find that the idea gained more reception. I will link to all of those great things in the shownotes. -Oprah For more than twenty-five years, Your Money or Your Life has been considered the go-to book for taking back your life by changing your relationship with money. How things have changed! Is FI more libertarian or more liberal? Yeah! Whether or not there will be when this gets published is another story, but I’ll link to it anyway just in case anyone is wanting to join us in Stratford-Upon-Avon which should be fantastic. Anyway, I lived in this town of a thousand people. Mad Fientist: And then, yeah, prove everyone wrong and do it. But it will get fixed soon. I read her book over 20 years ago (I am 43 now) when I was on a kick for reading anything from authors based in the North West (I am from WA). What it did is force me to face my own care of living in a world that’s coming apart. I feel privileged to have found this interview and this community before my 30th birthday; I could have wasted so much more of my life without resources like these. This was like the go-go nineties. Right now, it’s so conservative that most people won’t do it. The United States was still quite insular. I’m a bit too frugal, and a bit too crazy. And so, just after Joe died, I gathered all of the authors and activists who are the “for simplicity and frugality” of that time of my generation into a group. And so out of that was born this seminar that we taught for about a decade before Your Money or Your Life came to being. If you want to hear him speak, search YouTube. -Los Angeles Times "Vicki Robin wrote the book on retiring happy. I probably got about three hours of writing right now. It is basically that transformational core. And also, in the United States—and I don’t know if it’s in Europe now—we’re losing our social safety nets. I enjoyed understanding Robin’s history and current ventures. 2014 Mehr Geld für mehr Leben. And just to give everyone an idea of how much $70,000—1969 dollars—when Joe retired. In an era of diminishing resources and climate destruction, et cetera, I think we’re going to be thrown on our own more. I was on Oprah again. Oprah held up the book. Born in Oklahoma in 1945, Vicki grew up on Long Island and graduated cum laude from Brown University in 1967. And so personalizing that definition of money is the transformational heart of this program. The year Joe died in 1997, it was one of the top 10 business books in the United States. Oprah Gail Winfrey (born Orpah Gail Winfrey; January 29, 1954) is an American talk show host, television producer, actress, author, and philanthropist.She is best known for her talk show, The Oprah Winfrey Show, broadcast from Chicago, which was the highest-rated television program of its kind in history and ran in national syndication for 25 years from 1986 to 2011. Joe, he used to do anything but the morning shows, the big ones. I just found your amazing podcast couple weeks ago and have listened most of the episodes by now, thanks a lot for amazing content! So, it’s asking people to wean themselves from convenience. And I also bought into a change theory that basically, it says, “If you can get 5% of the population to think in a new way,” then that idea is anchored. And out of that came something called Take Back Your Time which has been a fabulous initiative to raise awareness about how we have traded—we have gone from more money instead of more time that the promise of the Industrial Revolution was that it would liberate human time, but we got convinced to spend more and more time on the job to have more and more money. Until I took on this update of Your Money or Your Life, I actually had no idea there was a big community out there. I think there’s probably forces I don’t understand, but surely, there are. I wonder if we were all to “wake up” and reduce consumerism, how this would affect market returns, economic growth, rental housing pricing, dividends, etc. She is coauthor with Joe Dominguez of the international best-seller, Your Money or Your Life: Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence(Viking Penguin, 1992, 1998, 2008, 2018). At one point she says, “I want to point out that not all Jewish people sacrifice babies.” Oprah: “I think we kinda know that. They want to get advice for one thing they can do because one thing you can do is something you can wake up in the morning and do. I don’t know if you have any sort of expectations what it’s like, but I’ve gone to a couple of the Chautauqua’s in the past years and they’re just phenomenal. We were going to do this! I’m there. And I learned some of what we need to do here, some of the big missing pieces in our food economy that we need to grow. Your community is: “What is the social safety net? I am very interested in working with people and communities now who are doing some aspect of this kind of localization work—building up local food economies, building up local manufacturing, doing planning processes where you take a look at what are our natural resources here. But at that time, interest rates and treasury bonds (which were the smart money went if you wanted to be financially independent) were some place around 7%. I was going upstream. And I trusted that if we could liberate people to be themselves in their world, to give their gifts, that things would change. I grew up where both my parents were professionals. Vicki Robin is a prolific social innovator, writer and speaker. Where are you? And here’s the terrible thing that’s going to happen. Vicki Robin: Well, what’s driving consumerism! I don’t know how far along in the process you are for the new version of Your Money or Your Life, but is there anything that you know has changed? That’s how we’re going to deal with this.”. You don’t eat a high fat diet and overeat in sugar and salt and fat and all those stuff in order to keep your neighbor who’s a heart surgeon employed. She is coauthor with Joe Dominguez of the international best-seller, Your Money or Your Life: Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence (Viking Penguin, 1992, 1998, 2008, 2018). So I was completely subsumed in my mission and purpose, which would seem noble—and it was deeply noble and satisfying—but there was a little human being inside me that was not getting fed at all. But basically, to question people, to question the whole activity of consumerism is not anti-American, it’s deeply American—it’s just anti-corporatism. It’s fabulous. I have to figure out how to save that.” I mean, I would’ve bought something that was for my little apartment that I had all by myself, and then my mind would go like, “You have to want three more things that are equal in price to that thing you bought, and not buy them. Previsualiza y descarga libros de Vicki Robin, incluidos Your Money or Your Life, Mehr Geld für mehr Leben y muchos más. And I’m also redefining financial independence really as having choice in your life about where you put your life energy. Vicki Robin. And so I think consciously building and repairing your close relationships, the people who will take care of you over time—. So, basically, the advertising industry was born in order to convince people to want what they don’t need and service to corporate profit. Books by Vicki Robin . But it was a New York Times Bestseller. People were sold that idea. I had, what I called, cash register mind. She graduated cum laude from Pembroke College in Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island in 1967. Yes, somehow or another, yeah. And finally, the media discovered us. I know I personally learned so much from everyone I talked to at these things. But I want people to have a basic foundation. And then, for each of those steps, you ask yourself those core questions: “Is it in service to anything that I think is important?”, “Would I be spending this money this way if I didn’t have to work for a living?”. Hundreds of thousands of people have followed this nine-step program, learning to live more deliberately and meaningfully with Vicki Robin’s guidance. When do I get to travel and screw up again? And then the putting your expenses into categories rather than—it’s sort of like a zero budgeting process where rather than sitting down around the kitchen table and deciding how to spend your income, it’s basically an experiential process of buying something and asking yourself, “Is this worth the life energy?”, It’s a process of being conscious in your relationship with the material world. She’s really out it all together-money, food, community, consumerism. That’s really my great joy. We weren’t preaching spiritual transformation. And we formed something called the Simplicity Forum. I was trying to find the upstream places. And then, it was five weeks on the Business Week Bestseller List. It’s actually been such a surprise to discover you all. He was in like PS38 or some ghetto high school or junior high school, I guess, in Spanish Harlem in New York City, having grown up on welfare cheese with his father having TB and being in a TB sanitorium and his mother not being able to speak English and him running the family from the time he was like 2. Hundreds of thousands of people have followed this nine-step program, learning to live more deliberately and meaningfully with Vicki Robin's guidance. About Your Money or Your Life. Or is there anything that you know you want to add for this new version that wasn’t in the original? “I bet you feel this, but here’s the idea. Now a whole new generation is taking her advice. The first one was like four people, and the last one we did was 400. I mean, this has been so enshrined that—in the Reagan year, it was the Laffer curve and the trickle-down economy. Vicki Robin: Well, here are my thoughts on that. The original seminar was called Transforming Your Relationship with Money & Achieving Financial Independence. And everybody, from the oldest person to the youngest person, was in fear about their financial future. Mad Fientist: So now, we’re in the last ‘90s when you’re feeling this. So, I wrote a book about my experiment in my 10-mile diet called Blessing the Hands That Feed Us. That’s what I saw Your Money or Your Life is. Loved this interview MF and Vicki! -Oprah For more than twenty-five years, Your Money or Your Life has been considered the go-to book for taking back your life by changing your relationship with money. Probably some UK/ US privacy laws…agh, Your email address will not be published. -Oprah** For more than twenty-five years, Your Money or Your Life has been considered the go-to book fortaking back your life by changing your relationship with money. Filmed in the 80’s and 90’s and just as true and even more urgently important today. We’ve done a pittance, but we were free! And I thought, “What kind of society bags its old people to poverty and treats its young people as the next profit center, the next tulip crazy.” This is not okay. Vicki Robin: I was nuts! Vicki Robin: Yeah! I don’t know if we have to have people all along the river and have people fish out the little kids and have people who change the laws and religious leaders who awaken people’s conscience. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. 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